Flavor Overuse – My Opinion!

I run across this at least a few times a day, flavor overuse. What is it? It’s when you do not do solo tast testing, starting from low flavor and raise it up, keeping notes on what you taste, when and where and even equipment matters. It’s when you guess at a starting point and then think: well it taste good here, only to discover now you can’t taste certain other juices. It’s when you see other people using it at that amount and assuming it is good right there, they like it, so you must like it too.  Hydration, medicine, diet, exercise too, all plays a part.

Example: Can’t taste juice -ecf. <More for zombie tongue, not flavor overload. but the effects of over flavoring are very very similar!

Taste bud damage is more than when you vape one particular juice profile repeatedly, rather your “buds” no longer taste that one flavor or juice. I have seen this happen with blue raspberry mixes, as well as other flavors and juices around. Flavor overload can and will do damage with repeated use of over flavoring. Are you over using your flavors? How do you know? If you do not test them from the very lowest to the very highest, you will not see the zombie effect this particular manufacture has, so how can you tell? By reading every recipe every review, talk to people that use this flavor line!

I have almost 2 yrs working with ultra concentrates, so yes I can base all of this on my own experiences. More on taste buds, up next, so please hang with me and keep reading!

Your taste buds regenerate every 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months and 3 years. At the 3 year mark, the entire “live” buds will have completely regenerated. There are some that die off and never ever come back. I can not prove the link to zombie tongue, but it does follow that pattern. I believe this is why your “tastes” change, but I could be wrong.

What I have noticed with Flavorah, is if you follow my blog here, and use drops, starting from 1-2 drops in 10ml and work up, you can easily find where you like a flavor at. From there, look at the amount. Then if you feel all froggy, and want to experiment, raise the flavors higher and higher, then maybe you will believe me, it will lead you back to what I have coined, zombie flavors.

You can push past the chemical and mutation parts, using more flavor than you really need, and have the flavor “come back”, bringing out only the higher notes of the flavor “peeking” or topping up, and then the lower notes disappearing, yet still achieve the same taste as you would using 3-7 drops .06 grams – .18 grams, because your tongue can’t tell the lower notes are gone, but they do disappear. This is what I call flavor waste. Too much flavor and spending too much money on something, if you had experimented with, could save you money, time and flavorings. It will also kill off your “buds” to where you will not taste flavors you like at lower amounts, unnoticed, until you end up with a juice from me or others that mix with my levels.

Once you go high on flavors, your taste buds change to reflect this. We can become so accustomed to those mixes that are “in your face”, that when juice testing or even vaping favorite juices, your taste buds are in a constant state of shock. It will make you feel like you can not vape anything below a higher threshold.

How to fix, or repair the damage? By stepping down slowly, just like how you would do to step down from nicotine in your eliquids. It’s that simple, and go slow.

I just know what works for me, and what and how to turn out top shelf juice. I want to taste my juice, the high and low notes, and I want it rich and just decedent to my tongue! I know that if I keep it at a reasonable amount, being that Flavorah is an ultra concentrate, not a standard flavoring, lower is better, less is more, and less is better for you. I also see it as this, if it cost me “x” amount to get the full high and low notes of each flavor, and when someone else is using a higher amount, cost comes into play. You spend more, to use more, when you need less, and spend less. Out of all of this however, you and your tongue as well as judgement on what tastes good to you,  might be different from my views and tastes.

I know this is a repeated post, but the more I keep seeing people using Flavorah at higher amounts, the more I cringe! However, in the end, how you want your flavors is on you. You are in control of how your flavors react, and it does make a difference. If you like it at 3%, 5% 9% and even 13%, go for it. I just wonder, am I coming in loud and clear yet? Is anyone out there paying attention?

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Gracias por estos valiosos consejos


I cringe when I see recipes using obscene percentages of FLV flavors knowing what I know now.

FYI the boxes below are not marked as to what is supposed to go in each, I just guessed…